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Author:  Christina Curtis [ Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Andorian Ranks
Hey everyone

So, since Tal Sek joined us a while ago, I've been trying to figure out what to do about Andorian ranks, since we've never been shown a full system, and I'd rather list him on the manifest with an Andorian rank rather than a Starfleet one (unless at some point off in the future he officially joins Starfleet). We've only had about four ranks named, so I didn't have much to work off, but I think I have a system I'm semi-happy with. It uses a simplified rank structure like our Ent-era Starfleet ones do, so it has fewer ranks to think about. I'll list it below, with a comparison against our Starfleet ranks.

StarfleetAndorian
AdmiralGeneralImage
Vice Admiral
Rear Admiral
CommodoreCaptainImage
CaptainCommanderImage
CommanderLieutenantImage
LieutenantSub-LieutenantImage
EnsignOfficerImage
Crewman 1st ClassMaster CrewmanImage
Crewman 2nd ClassAble CrewmanImage
Crewman 3rd ClassCrewmanImage


Thoughts? I'm still not entirely sold on the Able Crewman title, but it's liveable I think. Once I've got the rank structure pinned down, I need to find/make the rank images.
Author:  Christina Curtis [ Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Andorian Ranks
I've added in some images that I've found that I think would work well.

I'm still tossing up the idea of using what I've put in the table for Captain, or using this instead:
Image

I'm also wondering about using this for Officer, and the current Officer image for Sub-Lieutenant:
Image
Author:  Christina Curtis [ Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Andorian Ranks
Another option would be to use the below one for Officer, then the current Officer one for Sub-Lieutenant:
Image

Thinking about it (and probably rambling in this thread) that might work out better, and be a more linear progression up the rank images.

Still undecided on the Captain image though. My thought with the one I put in the able was that with the Andorians it would essentially be like a senior commander, in charge of a group of ships, so would essentially be the same rank image but with an embellishment. But I'm not sure if the other one just looks better or not.
Author:  Christina Curtis [ Thu Nov 12, 2015 5:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andorian Ranks
I think I'll go for having the second option for the Officer and Sub-Lieutenant ranks. Putting them into Nova now and updating the rank images in the table
Author:  Tal Sek [ Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andorian Ranks
Hello,

Thanks for the effort, I appreciate it! I'll look at memory alpha and some screenshots and try to meaningfully contribute to what you've already accomplished. I do like the Star emblem for captain more, but it may not work given how martial Andorians are.
Author:  Tal Sek [ Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andorian Ranks
This link has interesting ideas based on the Andorian Empire emblem,

http://www.tolayonsworld.de/andorian_ranks.gif

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/mem ... -prefix=en

We can say that the Quartermaster on Discovery is limited to a few protocol based designs and there is a Starfleet analogue Tal works with him on. The end result would be what you did already. Cause I really like em.
Author:  Christina Curtis [ Fri Nov 13, 2015 12:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Andorian Ranks
No idea why that page didn't come up in my own searches.

I think I'm going to change Lieutenant to Major, Sub Lieutenant to Lieutenant, and I'm not sure whether I'll change Officer to Sub Lieutenant or leave it as it is. I might at some point also change the crewman ranks to Soldier/Subsergeant/Sergeant.

My idea with this wasn't so that the quartermaster would come up with a different uniform for Tal to wear with rank insignia - I figure he would be the same as T'Pol, where she wore her Vulcan uniform and rank insignia until she resigned from the High Command. I was more thinking of just having a system for the ranks in place, with some sort of graphical representation of them on the site (though they obviously aren't canon; the rank images are actually taken from a Babylon 5 rankset that I saw, but looked generic enough to be repurposed)
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